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So Elaine's coffin box that she made decided to leap from its hanging place over the den door again. It's done this multiple times now. Nothing else has every fallen off these sills, and the coffin box is especially firmly affixed. Last time she repaired it I practically hung from it to make sure was well seated on the nail that holds it in place. We've joked about some "previous occupant" disliking the coffin and I'm running out of reasonable explainations for why this item — and nothing else — should keep falling down.

Ghosties!

Date: 2003-11-19 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] langsuir.livejournal.com
Chances are the "previous occupant" actualy IS knocking it off. As the great character of Sherlock Holmes once said:

"We must fall back upon the old axiom that when all other contingencies fail, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

If you strapped that sucker to the wall so that even hanging from it does not move it then obviously something else is knocking it off. It's not either of you, it's too high for the cats to reach and no one else has access to your suite. Ergo, some other "occupant" must be removing it.

Kinda weird, but cool.

Reasons?

Date: 2003-11-19 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logik.livejournal.com
Cats + Boxes + No Supervision = bizzare phenomena

Trust me on this. That cat of mine must be able to levitate, 'cause I get home sometimes and find him jumping off the top of stuff that there is no way in hell I can see him getting up to. Like shelves 7 feet from the floor with nothing nearby...

One word ...Velcro

Date: 2003-11-19 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
Velcro is your friend here - put velcro on the back and stick it in place.

Re: Reasons?

Date: 2003-11-19 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The cats can't get anywhere near it and there are several other things on the same shelf that have never fallen. Not to mention Elaine and I have been in the room and seen it fall with no cats anywhere nearby.

Re: One word ...Velcro

Date: 2003-11-19 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
And that is going to work better than a nail exactly how?

Re: Ghosties!

Date: 2003-11-19 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
It's not completely without exlaination — yet. But it's getting harder to explain each time it happens to just this one thing and nothing else.

Date: 2003-11-19 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
Nails are smooth - the resistance for comming out of the wall is nill.. plus you have only ONE connection

With a velcro strip you have hundreds of hooks - they also have a little give to support vibrations -

Well its a theory anyway....




Date: 2003-11-19 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The nail hasn't come out. There are wooden slats behind the plaster and you can't even pull the nail out with your fingers. You'd need a claw-headed hammer. The nail has about a 1/8" lip on it so any vibration extreme enough to get a 3-4lb box to jump off that would knock a lot of other stuff over too. It definitely isn't the nail.

Date: 2003-11-19 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
maybe [livejournal.com profile] sovietnimrod's apparition is visiting your house too...maybe the apparition is on the earth to haunt the goth community...or maybe it's just a really, extremely localized earthquake...

Just maybe...

Date: 2003-11-19 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valerian.livejournal.com
That's what I figured it was, vibrations from passing buses and trucks on the street 'shaking' it off the wall. Or tenants/workmen upstairs stomping around like elephants rattling it loose. If this is the case, why then has it not fallen off before? It's only been about a month since it first fell, if that. And in that time countless people have walked the floor above us. The night it fell while we were home there was no one moving around upstairs, nor any heavy traffic going by.

It can't be air currents from the ceiling fan - we have greeting cards propped up on that shelf and they have never fallen off. The shelf is about 4" wide and a good 7' off the floor - no cat can get up there (and if one did, all the other crap on it would get knocked down first).

It's just.... plain.... weird....

Re: Just maybe...

Date: 2003-11-19 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
yep i agree...and it sounds like michael is slowly running out of reasonable explanations...it's a pretty old building in a pretty old part of town...i agree anything that would knock that down would also at least move the items around it...especially buses, trucks, or air currents...

Date: 2003-11-19 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberrygrl23.livejournal.com
Maybe its time to have a chat with any potential "guests" that may be lurking and explain to them what the box means etc, reassure them, acknowledge them...prob thats all they are looking for... (if ya believe at all that is) :)

Re: Just maybe...

Date: 2003-11-20 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune-13.livejournal.com
I say Ghosties...when we lived on the 4th floor, weird shit (aka Ron & Janet's house ghost) happened with the first couple o days we lived there. Our house ghosts (there's two) moved in with us.
Thankfully.
Our house ghosts knocked out the previous occupant. Maybe he/she/it went downstairs to live with you.
It's not benevolent tho...so keep your wits about you.

Try putting a bowl of water out (like on an altar), and salting the corners of the rooms. That helps to get rid of any of the pesky spooks that aren't helping your best interests.

There's a few peeps who got really freaked and wouldn't come into our place for the first couple of days we lived on the 4th floor.
As soon as the bowl of water went up, our " personal houseghosts" cleared out the nasty one that was there from before, it was fine. People remarked that the rooms felt so much better - what did we do cause they didn't get that nasty feeling of malice like before.

Tangetally

Date: 2003-11-20 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Remember how the elevator would frequently press "4" when another button was pressed? Since then the elevator machine room and the elevator itself has been rewired. It didn't do that the entire time the fourth floor was unoccupied. Now that there are people on the fourth floor, the "4" button has gone back to pressing itself.

Did I tell you about Margaret's storage room door rattling?

Re: Tangetally

Date: 2003-11-21 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune-13.livejournal.com
no, I haven't heard about these events. I do remember the haunted elevator's antics. Did you know that the old elevator shaft (right next to the current one) was actually our front closet?
They boarded up the shaft and made it into our hall closet. That's why we had to huck our clothes...a secondary air shaft + smoke/asbestos..well, you get the picture.

Tell me about the rattling storage room door.
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