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You're Canada!
People make fun of you a lot, but they're stupid because you've got a much better life than they do.  In fact, they're probably just jealous. You believe in crazy things like human rights and health care and not dying in the streets, and you end up securing these rights for yourself and others.  If it weren't for your weird affection for ice hockey, you'd be the perfect person.
Take the Country Quiz at the Blue Pyramid

Actually I fudged it to get that. This is what I really got:


You're the United Nations!
Most people think you're ineffective, but you are trying to completely save the world from itself, so there's always going to be a long way to go.  You're always the one trying to get friends to talk to each other, enemies to talk to each other, anyone who can to just talk instead of beating each other about the head and torso.  Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, and you get very schizophrenic as a result.  But your heart is in the right place, and sometimes also in New York.
Take the Country Quiz at the Blue Pyramid

That last line is perfect!

Date: 2003-12-22 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
hmmmm...all hinged on that ski question...a more fitting question would have asked about hockey...but i'm still canada...

Date: 2003-12-22 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
jesus, i'd change it too.

Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
How come?

Date: 2003-12-22 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Precisely. I don't ski much, so I was torn. "No" - I end up with the U.N., "Yes" and I'm Canada. Pretty funny considering I joined the army with high ideals about peacekeeping.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
the UN is useless, played out, anti American. a bunch of bastards in it for themselves. before 911 they were discussing a condemnation of America for slavery.

screw them.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Funny. From this side of the fence we see the U.N. as a largely useless puppet for American interests.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
that is an amazing estimation of the United Nations. What exactly to they do for as opposed to do to America?

they have their hands out at every turn and produce zero but condemnation of our every actions.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
LOL - I made an early New Year's Resolution not to get in political arguments on the Internet. Suffice to say that while we share an aesthetic preference, it does not appear that we share the same political perspective ;-)

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
that's not an answer.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
hmmm...i'm with you on that one, as would be most of the world...i've never considered the u.n. as anti-u.s...but perhaps it is more the policy arms of the u.n. that are more pro u.s., those which seem to serve the interests of the u.s...such as the wto, imf and world bank especially...and now the u.s. rejoining unesco because of impending treaties which are meant to protect the culture of nations...which is a big no no in their books...the body does seem to have somewhat of a beef with u.s. policy from time to time...i'm with you on avoiding political arguments in most cases though...it saves a lot of grief...ha ha...

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
You're right, it's not. It's just an explanation for not giving one.

I was just curious about your perspective, but I wasn't planning to debate it.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
ok, well it's nothing personal.
i was just interested.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
No offense taken, or intended.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
now i feel bad.
i'm just fascinated by viewpoints of people outside of the US. i'm used to the whole "the US is a bully" stuff; and to some degree we are. but the UN has always struck me a pretty ineffectual and if anything, just a bunch of petty dicators (except Russia, who had 3 seats on the UN..very pro US?) who just complain and ask for money.

i'm sure that where business is concerned, we may have joined interests. i just never saw much out of them. if anything they are a huge disappointment to me and need to be replaced by something else. unfortunately, it looks like they are being replaced, and by a 'Pax Americana'... not something i'm interested seeing.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Maybe we're not so far apart politically. But really, arguing politics on the Internet is almost completely useless. The only conclusion I've ever seen from a political argument is both sides giving up believing the other is an intractable ass.

Actually, come to think of it, the same could be said for just about any political "discussion", including those between real politicians - only when kings (and their modern day equivalents) decide another king is an intractable ass, armies get called out.

Re: Curious

Date: 2003-12-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernod.livejournal.com
at least we haven't reduced ourselves to electing a king...well, almost anyway.

UNESCO

Date: 2003-12-22 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
Well, some aspect of the UN may be pro-American, but UNEESCO sure finds many ways to royally piss off the yanqui gringos.

Re: UNESCO

Date: 2003-12-23 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
yes and that's why they are joining now after 19 years of staying away...there is a great article about it in last month's <a href="http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0311148/culture.shtml>common ground</a>...there is a declaration that supports countries around the world protecting their own cultures...needless to say hollywood isn't pleased about that...and they are pressuring the american government to join unesco again and scuttle the "Universal Declaration on Cultural Diversity", a non-binding agreement proposed to offer tacit protection of member states' cultural industries from the predations of the free market...after all what hollywood peddles is certainly what i want the world to be like...jack valenti is an evil man...they would rather the wto handle those negotiations, a veritable puppet for u.s. business interests...you'll get a laugh out of his characterization of the evil franco-canadian alliance which threatens to undermine hollywood's world domination...and the deal with china which saw it's inclusion into the wto hinged on opening it's theatres to american productions...it's a great article, especially some of the ways they undermine cultural imperatives in other countries...
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