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I said I would paint this almost a year ago. I wasn't happy with my first attempt and scrapped it. Even though I'm only as far as blocking it in, I'm much more pleased with this second attempt. This is a departure from my other work, but it is the reason I started taking all those pictures.


Nightclub #1.2

Date: 2003-05-06 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deckards-sixth.livejournal.com
I *like* it so far...especially the shadowy figure in front. He's sort of in the picture, but still out it, watching.

The aethetics of myopia

Date: 2003-05-06 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
I have a strong tendency to out-of-focus focal points and in-focus but not-focal foreground objects. Without my glasses that's just how things are, what I'm looking at is too far away to focus on and what's in my periphery can be in focus even though I'm not looking at it.

Re: The aethetics of myopia

Date: 2003-05-06 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deckards-sixth.livejournal.com
The periphery fascinates me. What can you see when you aren't focusing on it? (for example)

Re: The aethetics of myopia

Date: 2003-05-06 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Take this (http://www.mbarrick.net/mbarrick.net/hub.nsf/webportfolio/EDDB2EB901B971E688256BDA000D7F1A?opendocument&cat=Digital%20and%20Other%20Media&count=10) picture for example. Look at the horse in the distance, not at the one in the foreground. In doing so what you are looking at is out of focus, while the periphrial foreground object (the black horse) is in focus. That's precisely what I would see if I were peeking around the black horse at the brown horse without my glasses on.

Date: 2003-05-06 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
Interesting....

Is the use of bright happy colours intentional?
It seems to contrast the intended mood of the
peice. Everything AROUND the characters is bright , positive and happy while the characters themselves are gloomy
dark and introverted (lonely).

Is this an "Always look on the bright side of life?" type piece?
Or is this an "I didn't have enough blue paint" peice/

?!?

Date: 2003-05-06 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
> Is this an "Always look on the bright side of life?" type piece?
> Or is this an "I didn't have enough blue paint" peice/


How about an unfinished piece. "Even though I'm only as far as blocking it in..." Did gloss over the text and just jump right in to critiquing the picture as if it were a finished work? Or do you just not know what "blocked in" means?


Obviously people don't have blue skin, but because blue shows through the I start with blue underneath to allow it to subtly show through. It's an ancient technique. Mediaeval painters used green grounds for flesh, but only because blue was too expensive (the expense of blue paint is why the Virgin Mary's robes are so often blue in Renaissance painting - her importance merited the expense).

At this stage in the game, unless you have significant exerience in painting with acrylics, understand the effect I'm aiming for, and have worthwhile technical advice to that end, all you are qualified to critque is general the composition independent of hue, saturation, or value.

wwwhooooaaa!

Date: 2003-05-06 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
enhance your calm... be at peace...pax


I am interpreting what I see in it ...

No .. I don't know what "blocked in" means ..and as far as the reference to blue - that was an arbitrary colour pulled off the top of my head.
I could have said green , purple or plaid....

"At this stage in the game, unless you have significant exerience in painting with acrylics, understand the effect I'm aiming for, and have worthwhile technical advice to that end, all you are qualified to critque is general the composition independent of hue, saturation, or value."

And at this stage in the reply , unless your are clear that was I actually trying to give your work bad criticism, and you have a clear understanding of what I was thinking,all you are qualified to do is as for clarification as to what my intentions was.


Qualified? I was talking the emotional impact of the current colour sceme in response to the content - NOTHING about technique. So since I have optic nerves wich perceive the visible spectrum of colour, and since I feel emotion
(actually thats quaetionable)

.. I am qualified to express the impact on me (no-one else)


Re: wwwhooooaaa!

Date: 2003-05-06 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valerian.livejournal.com
Heh.
We're a bit bitter, Ryan.
Too much time spent in Art School listening to 'experts' drone on and on incessantly about content tends to make one a bit jaded. Nonetheless, it's unusual for an artist to display their work while yet unfinished - consider this a peek into something few ever see. I for one am really 'touchy' about sharing my work before I feel it's done...

Date: 2003-05-07 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
Truth be told - a computer animation I did once started as a storyboard drunkenly scrawled on ugly yellow lined paper
(Bar Stationery)

Not presentable (or even readable) but functional.

However - if someone were to critique that scrawled pic
"man that is the worse most poorly drawn peice of crap
I have ever seen" I would agree
"You're right .. it is crap...."

not try to defend what I know is not the finsihed product. Cement foudations are not architecture, Lights and a camera are not movies, a stage is not a play.

But to me I do find the unfinished peice fascinating due to
the unlimited possibilities of what it CAN become though it may differ from the artists original intention.


Bad Analogy

Date: 2003-05-07 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
This stage of the painting would be more akin to the wire-frame stage of a 3-D computer animation. The design is there, but no colour, no texture, no lighting, etc.

ImageIf you were working on an animation, got the wire frame done but hadn't gotten to applying the texture maps and lighting and showed someone this wire-frame and they said, "What's with all the black? How come the ship is red and see-though? Is this some kind of 'bloody ghost-ship thing' or a 'I only have a 386' thing?" wouldn't you be just a *little* sarcastic and condescending to that person? I would be. And was.

See where I was coming from now?

Date: 2003-05-07 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
Ahhh... but what if it WAS my intention of creating a
bloody ghost ship. what if all the black was a night sky?
What if I was creating the graphics for the 386 computer monitor
readout for a Sci-fi movie? A retro-tech chic piece?


In fact I *did* use a wireframe render for the finished shot
on a few of my shots to represent a Cybogs POV in that very same animation.


But it might just be a question of context

If, if, if.

Date: 2003-05-07 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. So what?

> it might just be a question of context

Yes, the context in this case being, "New painting started" and "Even though I'm only as far as ..."

Date: 2003-05-06 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urban-creature.livejournal.com
oooo! I love it. Any more to share?

Date: 2003-05-06 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
This is the first of this series, and *far* from finished. But there are plenty of other paintings, drawings, sketches, and what-not in my on-line portfolio (http://www.mbarrick.net/portfolio). You can even comment on the pictures :-)

Date: 2003-05-06 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urban-creature.livejournal.com
and who are the people in the painting?

Date: 2003-05-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Alen, Kate, and Daevina. The orginal picture is here (http://www.gothic.bc.ca/gothic/photogallery.nsf/main?OpenFrameset&Frame=body&Src=/gothic/photogallery.nsf/index/51991170EB55F96E88256B23001F71B4%3FOpenDocument%23).

Date: 2003-05-06 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekydevil.livejournal.com
That's awesome, Michael!

The figure in white in the back I'm pretty damn sure is Daevina... not sure who the girl beside her is. Is the figure in the foreground me?

Date: 2003-05-06 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mediavictim.livejournal.com
With the hairstyle and dress (Shelly doesn't wear white)
I am sure that is daevina. But I am thinking that the hair for the foreground character is wrong for you. I also haven't seen yo wear a high colar sleeveless shirt before. The guy I am picturing is the guy who dances in the corner and wears sunglasses in the club (although in this pic he isn't) and had the high coloar PVC sleeveless shirt.

Re:

Date: 2003-05-06 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekydevil.livejournal.com
I figured it was me or Alen. The height is right for both, plus the pants and sleeveless shirt.

But I think you're right --- the lack of dreads on the back of the head is one thing, plus you're totally on about the collar. Plus the forward pelvis stance is 100% Alen. So I second your theory!

Alen, Kate, & Daevina

Date: 2003-05-06 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The original picture is here (http://www.gothic.bc.ca/gothic/photogallery.nsf/main?OpenFrameset&Frame=body&Src=/gothic/photogallery.nsf/index/51991170EB55F96E88256B23001F71B4%3FOpenDocument%23).

Date: 2003-05-07 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snap-dragon.livejournal.com
Ah, adding to it? I dig it right now. Looks great (^-^) -Allison

Date: 2003-05-15 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Thank you! I've started filling it in now and I'm really looking forward to the finished product.

Date: 2003-05-14 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-maleficent.livejournal.com
i didn't want to assume... but i thought that looked like my little silohette. very lovely painting indeed! i do have the one you made me for my birthday last year hanging on my bathroom wall! i love it too!!

Date: 2003-05-15 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Thanks :-) Now that my life and finances are becoming stable again, there is energy left for creative endeavors. Watch out when Elaine and I get back from New York all full of bohemian inspiration...
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