Engineer?

[mbarrick]

logik will appreciate this one: a Québec court has ruled that MCSE's aren't really engineers. "There is a risk for the public to be fooled by people who pretend to be an engineer without having gone through a university-approved program in engineering."

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Yay! Yay! Yay!

[logik.livejournal.com]

Calling a M.ust C.onsult S.omebody E.lse an engineer is like calling Chef-Boyardee spaghetti haute cuisine.

Near as I can tell, all that certificate really represents is that once upon a time, you were dumb enough to pay M$ several thousand dollars for a textbook worth less than a three ring binder with blank pages.

I causes endless grief in the tech world, especially for companies that get misled into thinking that they are hiring someone who can actually do math.

I finally told a friend of mine that from now on, I will never hire or outsource to anyone without a 4 year degree in Comp Sci, Mathematics, Electical Engineering or a related field. Alternatively they could have credit for a low level *nix driver or be a regular contributor to an open source project.

I know that there are a lot of talented people out there that may not make this cut, but I just can't afford to hire someone and then have to redo all their work after they're done.

Ask the troll about hiring and then redoing all someone's work. It cost him a fortune on a few occasions as well.

Sad, but M$ managed to make the term Engineer a shifty and dubious term.

I don't even call myself an engineer, because by training, I am a mathematician and cryptographologist. When I hit a real engineering problem, I am much happier working out a deal with a real engineer to solve it, and when they run into an issue in computation or encoding, I'm happy to supply the skills.

I really objected to the term Engineer being used to describe a community college course that essentially only provides the minimum level of skill required to work a first tier tech support desk.

Yay for PQ!

[mediavictim.livejournal.com]

It gets worse.

Imagine that you are someone looking into schooling for technical work. All the colleges push this MCSE program (high$) on these unsuspecting students who are only looking to learn the proper ways. They Xerox these people diplomas and throw them out on the street broke, ignorant with a worthless piece of paper telling them they're god.