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What do you look for on a team website? If you were in charge of putting up a website for your team, what would you want on it? Do you have any favourite sports websites? What makes you visit them? What would make you visit them more? And conversely, what annoys you the most about sports sites?

Seriously. I need some input here. Help!

Date: 2006-12-13 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
team websites...well i watch sports and play them so i guess i could give it a crack...though [livejournal.com profile] sovietnimrod is a good resource too...one thing all sports fans love, and players, is stats...that is a big thing to anyone who supports the team...scores/schedules are important too as well as information about the team/players...i would think history/background is a good addition...the only sports websites i go to often are the uefa one to check on the champions league and such...also the nhl website for scores as i'm in a hockey pool...other than that i check my local ball hockey league sites...the wbhl site is one where i do the stats...that's the ball hockey league i play in...is it a particular sport/team??? that might help me think of more ideas...

Date: 2006-12-13 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The content is pretty much a given. Stats, scores, history, player bios, schedules, streaming audio/video of past games, tickets, team merchandise, are all pretty indispensible. I guess what I am looking for is what makes one site stand out from another? Good vs. bad. For example, of the sites you visit which one would you consider the better site and why? Navigation, design, easy access to the data you want, extra features, nice perks. And what's bad about the bad ones? Clutter, vital missing things, design, etc.

I'm intentionally not mentioning the sport or team 1.) because the deal isn't done, and 2.) I've been asked to come up with something "fresh" so I don't want to taint the suggestions with what's already done by other teams in the particular sport.

You've actually already helped a lot, BTW. The UEFA site was one of the better looking sites I've seen so far.

Date: 2006-12-13 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
yeh i figured you hadn't mentioned it for a reason but thought i'd ask...i find uefa to be a good site...it's pretty easy to navigate...i'd say one of the reasons i don't visit the sites is that most of them are so cluttered...too much information and too many advertisements...the nhl ones are terrible for that...the soccer ones have a fair amount of info but still look cleaner...even the whitecaps site is far better than most nhl ones...although for the general sports fan it probably works...they seem to like being bombarded with info and video...

Date: 2006-12-13 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
I'm not so sure about that. The big league sites (and your other comment is totally right - the format is forced on the teams) don't look like they are driven by what the fans want or like, but rather by a committee process that results in trying to cram absolutely everything on the home page at the same time. I've been involved in plenty of projects that have gone down that road. With something as politcally charged as big league sports, with all the money and ego involved, that'd be a hard tide to turn. I just can't see a designer standing up to ask his billionaire boss if he is on crack.

Date: 2006-12-13 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
oh i know about imposed format, i work for the government after all...ha ha...yeh that's exactly what i don't like about them...everything is crammed in your face...too much information for my liking...as long as it's easy to navigate people will get around to the information they are seeking...i'm usually there for a particular reason and am willing to look for what i'm after...as i think many people are...they always shoot for the lowest common denominator (which isn't far off many sports fans...ha ha...) and that's where they get into trouble...personally i would like something that was visually stimulating and clean...kind of like the front page of the candiens...though i must say for an nhl site the maple leafs one is pretty clean and stylish...

Date: 2006-12-13 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heevoling.livejournal.com
nothing about sports sites annoy me because i don't visit them ;)

however, google turned this up, which may or may not be useful: http://www.ladiescourt.com/2006/11/17/justine-henin-hardennes-voted-best-website/

i find it interesting that one of the observations is that individual player sites tend to be better than team sites. perhaps you can glean something from this and improve on the apparent mediocritized standard in sports team websites?

Date: 2006-12-13 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
i wouldn't at all be surprised that the individual sites are better...the team ones are very cluttered and not very visually pleasing in any way...though i have a feeling the leagues probably impose a format on them for the most part which may limit the creativity...

Date: 2006-12-13 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
I think you're right, it seems that most major pro leagues are going with cookie-cutter sites which all the the team sites are set-up in an identical format.

English soccer is brutally notorious for that, as they rely on a league sponser who (and not the teams) obviously dictates what the sites look like. For example, here's the three English teams I follow:

http://www.seagulls.premiumtv.co.uk
http://www.wycombewanderers.premiumtv.co.uk
http://www.southendunited.premiumtv.co.uk

Even a quick glace shows that these are all basically identical in look and content, and because of that give a drab appearance overall to the league.

The only exception to this standard Premium TV Sponser format is Accrington Stanley's website http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk because they were promoted this year from non-league status and as of yet sponser Premium TV has yet to make their precense felt and the website conform to the norm.

By the way, I think the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football has the best soccer website; it's clean, not cluttered with adverts, concise, and covers a lot of ground.

Date: 2006-12-13 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
I agree. I was a bit nervous about this project because I don't know a whole lot about the sport in question - I've played it, I know the rules, but I'm in no way a fan. As I look around I realise how few sports sites, regardless of the sport, are designed with any thought to design and usability. Whatever I do is guaranteed to be "fresh" in this genre.

Hell, if Voltaire can do a Superbowl commercial, I can pull this off.

Date: 2006-12-13 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-bonk.livejournal.com
Good Score and hats off to you on this project. Are you working alone or are you working with a company? For some reason I thought you had a Government job or something.

Date: 2006-12-13 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
I do, but I chose to go to three days a week so that I have time to work on other projects.

This project isn't in the bag yet, though. But if it does come through I could see needing some help. This won't be a $1000 web brochure.

Date: 2006-12-13 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
This is the website my lacrosse team is associated with and uses: http://www.vancouverlacrosse.com I have heard many positive comments from players in our league about how well this site is compared to most lacrosse team websites out there.

Mind you, kind of depends on the sport in question and what your target audience is - i.e. fans, media, players, etc. I'd say one popular feature common to most good sites is a forum for discussion - and our forum attracts a lot of viewing traffic even though discussion is often limited to about a dozen freaquent posters. Statistics and pictures are popular features as well.

The main dilemna I see with sports websites is content - there are some real nice-looking websites but no one ever updates the content. That's a common pratfall, sport websites (especially those run by amateur teams) don't have the people resources to come up with current news content. That's a problem with our own club, no one besides me wants to sit down and do the gruntwork to create interesting content. Often the better sports websites work so well because they have a strong website admin running the show.

Date: 2006-12-14 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
Excellent, Dave. This is most helpful. I think I have plenty to bring to the table when I meet with the (potential) client next week.

Date: 2006-12-14 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
Hey, no problem. And feel free to drop me a line if you need any opinions or input, as I've trolled enough sports webpages in different sports to know what I think works and doesn't. What might look nice and work for a site geared towards player info and news may not work for one geared towards stats (and stats-heavy websites often involve co-ordination with an imported database). Depending on the nature of organisation (team, or league, or governing association) I can probably example site to give you an idea what to do and what to avoid
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