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Where were you...


         ...when Reagan was shot?
         ...when the space shuttle blew up?
         ...when Iraq bombed Israel?
         ...when Lady Di was killed?
         ...when the towers came down?

Date: 2002-09-11 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
> When *Princess* Di was killed...

I seem to have offended you with my choice of title. Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales - The title "princess" conferred upon her by her marriage makes no difference to her previous appelation of "Lady", which is use with a marchioness, countess, vicountess, baroness; daughter of a duke, marquis or earl; or wife of a baronet, knight, or holder of the title "Lord" as bestowed by royal courtesy. Most titles cannot be revoked, meaning that she remained a princess after the divorce, but would never be queen. There is no precedent for what would have happened if she had lived and Charles was to remarry, given that she would still hold the title, "Princess of Wales." But an example of how titles are not normally revoked, even when things are highly awkward, would the be the title "Defender of the Faith" that still applies to the English monarch. It was conferred upon Henry VIII by the Pope prior to Henry declairing himself head of the Church of England in order to annul one of his own marriages and subsequently being excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church, yet if you look on British coins you will see the initials F.D. or FID DEF after the queen's name (fidelis defensor: defender of the faith). Interestingly you won't see that on Canadian coins, though, because the title only applies to the monarch of England, not the monarch of Canada, which are two different titles and roles even though they are always held by the same person.

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Date: 2002-09-11 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deckards-sixth.livejournal.com
I always thought of Princess as a promotion over Lady. And she was a princess to me.

No offense taken. Don't sweat it.

Date: 2002-09-11 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
LOL Nope. Atristocrats *never* give up a title. They just keep piling them on.

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