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Here comes Latvia and Moldova!
[U.S. Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld seemed unimpressed with the French and German [pro-U.N., no attack without evidence] position, and said the two countries don't speak for all of Europe.

"Now you're thinking of Europe as Germany and France. I don't. I think that's old Europe," he said.

"If you look at the entire NATO Europe today, the centre of gravity is shifting to the East," said Rumsfeld.

Without naming names, he suggested other European countries stand behind the U.S. in their position against Iraq.

"Look at vast numbers of other countries in Europe. They're not with France and Germany on this. They're with the United States," he said.
Vast numbers? Last time I looked there were 47 countries in Europe (including the "biggies" like San Marino and Monaco). Does this guy have trouble counting? It's genuinely frightening that people this stupid are in command of armies. Do they have lead-lined aquaducts in Washington or something?

BTW... 1€ = $1.07 USD

Date: 2003-01-23 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
well we all know that since wars in the 17th and 18th centuries that it's an anamoly to have someone intelligent actually run an army...in fact in the modern method of producing military officers the kind of attributes that would make for a good general would get you ostracized and kicked out of such places as westpoint...they want dull morons who follow orders from the pentagon no matter what the cost to their men...you will rarely see the mcarthurs and pattons any longer...and it seems to me that france and germany carry a fair bit of influence in europe...they are two of the stronger economies, and no one in europe really cares much what the united kingdom has to say...not to mention that most european countries are pretty progressive and peaceful...i'm sure switzerland, scandanavia, and the dutch aren't rattling their sabres at this point...rumsfeld is a moron, just as much as mr. bush, if not more...it's amazing how they'll try and put a positive spin on anything that is said...especially when the sky is really falling...and one fact he forgot to mention all of those nameless european supporters don't have a veto on the security council...so let luxembourg, liechtenstein, monte carlo, and the eastern bloc send their massive armies to support the u.s....ha ha...i'm impressed you know of san marino, not many people do...i only did because i used to read atlases...

I collect atlases

Date: 2003-01-23 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
I guess you didn't get stuck with that box ;-)

Re: I collect atlases

Date: 2003-01-23 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
and i used to read world almanacs for entertainment...ha ha...

San Marino

Date: 2003-01-23 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
San Marino has the notable distinction of being the only country to actually elect and then later vote out their communist government - both times through the confines of ballot box.

I read somewhere that San Marino has produced enough postage stamps in its history to cover the entire territory of the country.

The Republic San Marino

Date: 2003-01-23 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The last of the classical city-states.

San Marino - Power of the Italian Peninsula

Date: 2003-01-23 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
Well, I can understand Dubya's concrens over France - after all, they usually surrender after a few minutes.

But then again, he should not be so snuff if he's counting Italy in amongst his solid backers. Those guys could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

Heck, even San Marino holds the victors edge in "wars" with Italy. Some neighbouring Italian prince hundreds of years ago tried to invade San Marino but gave up when it got dark, unable to actually find the country because they were lost in the fog. Who fights wars in the fog - let alone misplaces and then defaults to a small 23 square km republic?

Re: San Marino - Power of the Italian Peninsula

Date: 2003-01-23 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
My dad, who was part of the Canadian advance through Italy in WWII, once said to me, "I don't have any idea how the Romans conquered Europe, the Italians I fought against were the most useless and cowarly bunch imaginable."

San Marino, on the other hand, has held its own since 301 A.D.!

I don't know if they still do it, but one of their chief "industries" used to be selling aristocratic titles. Wanna be "Sir Nimrod"?

Republican Titles

Date: 2003-01-23 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
I find it ironic that a Republic would be selling aristocratic titles.

But then again, I claim to be - no, I am a Soviet Emperor... which is all a bit of a paradox unless you're perhaps ruling North Korea.

There is a story (probably apochrypal) that's attributed to Churchill, who remarked after hearing that Italy had joined WW2 on the side of Hitler: "Good! We got stuck with them the last war"

It's sure nice to know that I wasn't alone reading atlases (and the World Almanac) during reading break in school. My teacher once derided me for reading an atlas until I retorted: "Well then Mrs.Smartypants, if you're so smart and all - then you tell me where Kiribati, Oman, and Mali are all located then?"

Atlases

Date: 2003-01-23 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
One of the other doorstops my co-workers at the Capitol 6 was a Croatian immigrant with a degree in geography. We used to amuse ourselves by shouting questions like "What's the capitol of Mirconesia?" up and down the escalator as we kept the world safe from theatre-skippers.

Re: San Marino - Power of the Italian Peninsula

Date: 2003-01-23 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
hey that looks like a character from hercules, or rocket robinhood...

Rocket Robin Hood - Cosmonaut?

Date: 2003-01-23 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
"Stealing from the stellar rich and giving to the astro poor."

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need?

Re: Rocket Robin Hood - Cosmonaut?

Date: 2003-01-23 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
remember 'dementia 5' where they used the same backgrounds for both spiderman and rocket robinhood??? what was with that??? too funny...

Easy answer

Date: 2003-01-23 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbarrick.livejournal.com
The lead animators discovered acid.

Re: Easy answer

Date: 2003-01-23 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seymour-glass.livejournal.com
i suppose so...but the had the same villians too...just seemed hokey...

Rocket Robin Hood

Date: 2003-01-23 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
Yeah, we were having a discussion on Saturday morning cartoon on The Smoke Pit and someone mentioned Rocket Robin Hood... which gave me ideas...

Re: Rocket Robin Hood

Date: 2003-01-23 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valerian.livejournal.com
What makes me laugh is remembering all those (brilliant but) lame-ass animation tricks, where certain scenes were repeated in every episode to save having to draw new scenarios - take Friar Tuck for instance. Has anyone other than me noticed how he used to bite and fling the same apple/bread/turkey leg over his shoulders, over and over again? And the psychedelic Spiderman episodes, too. How was he able to swing across town with or without anything (buildings, trees, trippy nebulae, etc.) to attach his web to...? I miss those cartoons.


Hey, did we get off-topic or what?

Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman

Date: 2003-01-23 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
My favourite Spiderman episode was the one where the eeevil villian was nothing more than basically an angry face with clenched teeth and a creased brow that looked like it was manually jiggled around. His facial expression never altered and you never saw his body below his neck.

N!

Re: Rocket Robin Hood

Date: 2003-01-23 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sovietnimrod.livejournal.com
One of the highlights of Rocket Robin Hood were those little biographical blurbs about the main characters.

For example: Friar Tuck - whose "...bravery was as tremendous as his appetite".
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